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Not directly related to this topic but it is telling to me that the people with the most direct experience and sophisticated understanding of wokeness are the most pessimistic of any hope of seriously turning back its tide. The main divide I see is between those born before about 1990 and those born after. Those born in the 1990s were brought up with this and understand better than the older millennials and gen xers who keep expecting the final collapse of wokeness: For our Generation there is nothing else.

Among millenials raised in the mainstream global cosmopolitian class, there is no ideology or identity that has a positive project to stand up against Wokeness. There are pockets where the old religious identities hold out but these are eroding quickly and they seem to have lost all power to motivate any spread outside their shrinking parochial boundaries. As someone who lived through it, it seemed as though the Second Bush presidency simply destroyed any legitimacy of any of the old ideological projects for this generation- whether it was christian religion, patriotism or even muscular liberal internationalism. The 2000s-era combination of rank moralistic hypocrisy at home and bloody stupid blundering abroad irreversibly tarred all of these projects, at least for the generation that came of age during them.

Among the various counter-woke movements or communities I've seen, the only ones that seemed to offer any constructive project or spiritually fulfilling content of their own are the 'Rationalists' and Jordan Peterson. The Rationalists have some troubling cult-like features of their own and their content is never likely to be embraced by a broad audience for reasons that are obvious to anyone who knows anything about them and Jordan Peterson seems to have pushed himself past the brink trying to carry a global spiritual revival on his back. And even his project felt as though it was ultimately doomed by the hollowness at its core- he offered a story about stories, trying to argue for the value of the lessons that the old myths could offer but he couldn't bring himself to argue that there could be any actual truth to them- the real kind of truth the way the dimwit understands it not the midwit version of truth you have to conjure into being through argumentation with Sam Harris.

And yet, even assuming I have correctly diagnosed the problem, I have no solution and little hope of any. I can continue to point out the stupidities, cruelties and casualties of the new faith until the day I die but I have nothing real to stand against it. What gives me the strength to do so is a complicated combination of family, cultural and psychological impulses that I suspect I will find difficult enough to pass onto my own children, much less anyone else.

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Matthew S.'s avatar

Really interesting read, Sarah. Thanks.

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